TheCoatingStore.com

Results 1 to 9 of 9

Thread: D4 Color Code, Ford Rapid Red 2021 F150

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jun 2022
    Posts
    1

    Default D4 Color Code, Ford Rapid Red 2021 F150

    Never painting with Tri Coat. Painting a bumper. Purchased Matrix Paint, mixed at the local store. Applied 3 coats of the base coat, basically looked like a dark red. Applied the Mid Coat much lighter version of the red color. Keep spray gun approx 15 inches away and moved fast side to side. First mid coat lessened the base red color, second mid coat made it look more pearl or a pink color. Applied a 3rd mid coat and made it more pink. Talk to the store, they recommended I clear and wait. Next day, the paint looks great, but not Rapid Red, its on the pink/ Peral side of the color. Any suggestions. They are re-mix the colors on Tuesday

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    46,843

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by aje7445 View Post
    Never painting with Tri Coat. Painting a bumper. Purchased Matrix Paint, mixed at the local store. Applied 3 coats of the base coat, basically looked like a dark red. Applied the Mid Coat much lighter version of the red color. Keep spray gun approx 15 inches away and moved fast side to side. First mid coat lessened the base red color, second mid coat made it look more pearl or a pink color. Applied a 3rd mid coat and made it more pink. Talk to the store, they recommended I clear and wait. Next day, the paint looks great, but not Rapid Red, its on the pink/ Peral side of the color. Any suggestions. They are re-mix the colors on Tuesday
    One thing to keep in mind when shooting a three stage paint is that the mid-stage is usually translucent so every time you apply an additional mid-coat it will change the end result. If the mid-stage is translucent pink then each additional coat will make the final result more pink.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    lower Michigan
    Posts
    33,889

    Default

    I agree with Len. It sounds to me like the mid coat is too concentrated. Maybe add more reducer to get a more muted effect which will give you more control over the coverage.
    LS says "Lets Go Brandon". He's like that.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    olympia,wa
    Posts
    2,011

    Default

    tri coat colors in my opinion, require spray out cards to fine tune the color before taking it to the vehicle. you have so many options for adjusting the color. light or dark primer, # of base coats, # of mid coats, pressures, etc...
    if it were something i cared about i'd nail down the formula so i could reproduce it at will.
    b marler

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    lower Michigan
    Posts
    33,889

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by bmarler View Post
    tri coat colors in my opinion, require spray out cards to fine tune the color before taking it to the vehicle. you have so many options for adjusting the color. light or dark primer, # of base coats, # of mid coats, pressures, etc...
    if it were something i cared about i'd nail down the formula so i could reproduce it at will.
    Good point. Spray out cards, especially in this case are a must.
    LS says "Lets Go Brandon". He's like that.

  6. #6

    Default

    you need to do a "let down panel" you need to see how many coats of the mid coat you need to match the car.

    here is a link to a explanation, I'm not patient enough to type it all out.
    https://stage.axalta.com/content/dam...cedure-Eng.pdf

    youre in a tough spot on that color and trying to panel paint, good luck

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    1,731

    Default

    Nahh, you will not get it that easy...

    You are in trouble..

    Gotta spend a lot of money or buy experience with that lparticular paint system to get these tricoats right...

    And let down spray out panel every single time..no matter how well you know the color..

    I been painting for years and always do spray out cards even if I did that color many times..

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Posts
    1,220

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by bmarler View Post
    tri coat colors in my opinion, require spray out cards to fine tune the color before taking it to the vehicle. you have so many options for adjusting the color. light or dark primer, # of base coats, # of mid coats, pressures, etc...
    if it were something i cared about i'd nail down the formula so i could reproduce it at will.
    As usual bmarler is right on the money. I typically make cards for all my repairs unless I have access to original paint, brand used, etc.. When I shoot tri coats I always use spray out cards regardless of what info or material I have on hand, even if I did the original work. Here is an example of a tri coat spray out cards I shot.
    Also, check with the paint manufacture to see if there is a specific TDS or Technical Bulletin for your color. For instance I shot Ford Ruby Red using PPG Deltron DBC2000 which has a standard TDS for shooting the DBC2000. However PPG also has a specific Tech bulletin (TBRR-4) for their application with this color to ensure you match a repair. My cards are usually 3x5, but for tri coats I spray out 6x10" cards to get a better comparison.
    Attached Images Attached Images

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Posts
    1,220

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by baubau View Post
    Nahh, you will not get it that easy...

    You are in trouble..

    Gotta spend a lot of money or buy experience with that lparticular paint system to get these tricoats right...

    And let down spray out panel every single time..no matter how well you know the color..

    I been painting for years and always do spray out cards even if I did that color many times..
    Absolutely, great advise baubau

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •