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agentjoey
02-12-2013, 05:33 PM
Ok so I'm just a hobbyist and shoot cars maybe every 3 months or so at best. I'm in the middle of revamping a lot of my tools and supplies. I use a 3M half face with N95 filters and a full face shield for body work and sanding. I'm looking into something new to spray with like a full face with P100 cartridges. I can't afford a fresh air system, not that I think it's not important, I just don't have that kind of cash. But on the other hand I don't want to ruin my lungs either. I always spray with full body protection and head protection. I'm buying a new DeVilbiss Plus gun this week and it's going to kill the bank account if ya know what I mean. What are your thoughts on this?
I got rid of my other face mask with P95 cartridges I was using for spraying.

Len
02-12-2013, 09:08 PM
Ok so I'm just a hobbyist and shoot cars maybe every 3 months or so at best. I'm in the middle of revamping a lot of my tools and supplies. I use a 3M half face with N95 filters and a full face shield for body work and sanding. I'm looking into something new to spray with like a full face with P100 cartridges. I can't afford a fresh air system, not that I think it's not important, I just don't have that kind of cash. But on the other hand I don't want to ruin my lungs either. I always spray with full body protection and head protection. I'm buying a new DeVilbiss Plus gun this week and it's going to kill the bank account if ya know what I mean. What are your thoughts on this?
I got rid of my other face mask with P95 cartridges I was using for spraying.

As long as the overspray in the room doesn't get too heavy and the mask fits decently AND the cartridges are new you should be ok. Just remember that you are using a "negative pressure mask" which can become dangerous if the prefilters get too coated with overspray and cause the mask to start leaking around the edges.

We have a really good deal on a Plus gun without a cup. If you have a DeVilbiss Cup from a Finishline or a Tekna it will work on the Plus. Check out our prices linked below.


http://autobodystore.net/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/devplus.png
Plus Link (http://autobodystore.net/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=ABS&Product_Code=DEVGFG670G&Category_Code=1D)

http://autobodystore.net/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/3M7162.jpg
3M Full Face Mask Link (http://autobodystore.net/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=ABS&Product_Code=3m7162&Category_Code=3OP)

agentjoey
02-12-2013, 09:34 PM
As long as the overspray in the room doesn't get too heavy and the mask fits decently AND the cartridges are new you should be ok. Just remember that you are using a "negative pressure mask" which can become dangerous if the prefilters get too coated with overspray and cause the mask to start leaking around the edges.

We have a really good deal on a Plus gun without a cup. If you have a DeVilbiss Cup from a Finishline or a Tekna it will work on the Plus. Check out our prices linked below.


http://autobodystore.net/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/devplus.png
Plus Link (http://autobodystore.net/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=ABS&Product_Code=DEVGFG670G&Category_Code=1D)

http://autobodystore.net/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/3M7162.jpg
3M Full Face Mask Link (http://autobodystore.net/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=ABS&Product_Code=3m7162&Category_Code=3OP)

thanks for the reply Len, I always change the cartridges after primer, base coat and clear coats. I do have another question, I have always used N95 in the past because that's what my dad used, but I have been thinking about going to P100 because it sounds like they filter better. Do you think they would fill up or clog up too fast and make the seal leak?

Len
02-12-2013, 10:56 PM
thanks for the reply Len, I always change the cartridges after primer, base coat and clear coats. I do have another question, I have always used N95 in the past because that's what my dad used, but I have been thinking about going to P100 because it sounds like they filter better. Do you think they would fill up or clog up too fast and make the seal leak?

It's difficult to say because the amount of overspray in the air is going to be a big factor. Have some extra pre-filters on hand so that you can change them if necessary.

Mountaineer
06-20-2013, 07:53 AM
Len, is this mask useable with eyeglasses? Are the filters good for base/clearcoat? Thanks.

Len
06-20-2013, 10:23 AM
Len, is this mask useable with eyeglasses? Are the filters good for base/clearcoat? Thanks.

Full face masks with cartridges are NOT usable with glasses or beard. Because this is a "negative pressure" type of mask any leakage will allow toxins to leak IN so the fit needs to be almost perfect in order to protect you properly. Your best protection when wearing glasses is a "positive pressure" type of mask that has air pumped into it. Of course a positive pressure mask is more expensive buy you don't need to replace cartridges. With glasses it's best to use a hood on a supplied air system.


http://autobodystore.net/mm5/graphics/00000001/hobbyair2.jpg
LINK (http://autobodystore.net/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=ABS&Category_Code=HP)

Chase
06-21-2013, 07:23 PM
Full face masks with cartridges are NOT usable with glasses or beard. Because this is a "negative pressure" type of mask any leakage will allow toxins to leak IN so the fit needs to be almost perfect in order to protect you properly. Your best protection when wearing glasses is a "positive pressure" type of mask that has air pumped into it. Of course a positive pressure mask is more expensive buy you don't need to replace cartridges. With glasses it's best to use a hood on a supplied air system.


http://autobodystore.net/mm5/graphics/00000001/hobbyair2.jpg
LINK (http://autobodystore.net/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=ABS&Category_Code=HP)

Hey Len do you ship these to Canada? Or am I better off finding one on this side of the boarder?

Len
06-21-2013, 08:14 PM
Hey Len do you ship these to Canada? Or am I better off finding one on this side of the boarder?

Yes, we could send it Priority Mail which helps offset some of the Brokerage Fees charged by other shippers.

If you check out using BONGO it might cost a lot less to ship. They have a link in the lower left hand corner of the store section of this site.

Chase
06-22-2013, 12:12 PM
I'd need like 100ft for the one big buiding I can use in the summer. In the work shop in the winter I'd still need more then just 40 feet to work effectively.

Can the hobby air handle 100feet or is the SAS 3800-30 model the better way to go. Plus I see the SAS has the smaller hose.

Len
06-22-2013, 12:54 PM
I'd need like 100ft for the one big buiding I can use in the summer. In the work shop in the winter I'd still need more then just 40 feet to work effectively.

Can the hobby air handle 100feet or is the SAS 3800-30 model the better way to go. Plus I see the SAS has the smaller hose.

The SAS 3800-30 comes with 50 feet of hose and I'm not sure it can be extended and it costs $870.

The Hobbyair II comes with 80 feet of hose and you can add another 40 feet if you like and the system without the additional hose costs $572. with the full face mask. The additional 40 feet of hose would cost you $54.60.

If you have a beard or where glasses I'd recommend the direct feed hood. If you go with the full face mask or hood you want to be sure to order lens protectors.

Chase
06-22-2013, 07:58 PM
The hobby II with the 80 feet and hood sounds like it would work. I could add another 40 ft. of hose if need be.

thx.