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    Hvlp 1.4 O for base RP 1.4 O clear Did not...

    Hvlp 1.4 O for base

    RP 1.4 O clear

    Did not like the l pattern at all,had both styles to demo
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    Sata makes their tip size based on flow rate not...

    Sata makes their tip size based on flow rate not the actual size of the hole ,weird right lol

    As far as the sata 4000 RP the max air pressure for that gun is 32 psi

    Any more psi than that and...
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    Well guys I am going to throw you a curve ball....

    Well guys I am going to throw you a curve ball. What Painter Dave and Henry say are absolutely true but not all paint systems are the same. Now with ppg/axalta/ glasurit and some RM clears a 1.2 or...
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    Good observation none the less ......

    Good observation none the less ......
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    I still paint the same way I always have. I do...

    I still paint the same way I always have. I do have a very nice environment now but I can assure you I have painted in a garage,in the shop,and plenty of caves called booths over the last 30 plus...
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    Man when I was younger we did lots of clips etc....

    Man when I was younger we did lots of clips etc. I agree with you that this build is over the top and really pointless . He technically did ďclip itĒ and it goes against everything Chrysler has ever...
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    I just want to clarify a couple of things. I am...

    I just want to clarify a couple of things. I am in a strict low voc market and low voc clears will take longer to fully cure vs the old high test clears. I have seen the 3m clear film they put on...
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    No fear,just facts oh mighty Phil lol

    No fear,just facts oh mighty Phil lol
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    In regards to products gassing out there is a...

    In regards to products gassing out there is a reason we wait 30 days before we put the 3m clear plastic film back on freshly painted parts.If you donít the film will bubble,same goes for wax,it can...
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    The reason I use slow everything is my...

    The reason I use slow everything is my environment. I use a downdraft booth which moves a massive amount of air and can cause the film to skin over. My average booth cycle is an 1-1.5 hrs so I can...
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    You will always get a better end result using...

    You will always get a better end result using slow everything. Itís not always practical depending on job size but extra flash time is also something to keep in mind.
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    Guessing doesn’t work with someone’s life. I’ll...

    Guessing doesn’t work with someone’s life. I’ll tell you Why your math is incorrect. All of the High strength steel he manipulated around the door openings,front rails,aluminum strut towers,...
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    It is a 3rd world repair,which means you don’t...

    It is a 3rd world repair,which means you don’t have the proper tools ,parts ,techniques to do the job properly.The car is unsafe period, bmw engineers spend time and money using procedures and crash...
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    Bau bau with all due respect you donít know what...

    Bau bau with all due respect you donít know what your talking about.Google Larry montanez ,he owns mid island collision,P@l consulting,writes articles for many industry publications does numerous...
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    Phil I agree with you 110% the oems come up with...

    Phil I agree with you 110% the oems come up with repair procedures by doing their own crash testing,insurance companies have nothing to do with this.None of us know more than the engineers,the...
  16. [QUOTE=PainterDave;365361]i believe he said...

    [QUOTE=PainterDave;365361]i believe he said "water based" not "waterbase" mr. grammar guy lol[/

    Regardless it’s not the correct term lol
  17. Ok final bill for materials for the 2018 Mazda...

    Ok final bill for materials for the 2018 Mazda 46V are $700 and change. This includes sealer base ,midcoat , clear,just fluids. The repair included a new hood,bumper cover,hood hinges,upper grille...
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    This falls under ďjust because you can doesnít...

    This falls under ďjust because you can doesnít mean you shouldĒ

    This car will be anything but safe when finished,it was an acceptable practice 20 years ago to clip section etc but not on todayís...
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    Neither am I ,thankfully my boss sprays most of...

    Neither am I ,thankfully my boss sprays most of it and I stick to collision painting. They say itís gel resin technology,whatever that means. I prefer spraying sikkens BTLV 650 to Imron but you need...
  20. Babau there are 2 versions of soul red, 41V is...

    Babau there are 2 versions of soul red, 41V is the older version which is a snap to do,the newest one is 46V and much more brilliant.I have not done 46G machine gray yet either,I have read about ppg...
  21. Absolutely,all prices are available on my...

    Absolutely,all prices are available on my computer as I mix. Everything is tracked by the scale and applied to each RO # . When I know the price I will post it :)
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    We refinish many Peterbilt ,kenworth etc semis. I...

    We refinish many Peterbilt ,kenworth etc semis. I havenít seen many Imron single stage trucks anymore, practically all of them are Imron Elite Base now days.
  23. Sadly itís the sign of the times, paint and...

    Sadly itís the sign of the times, paint and materials in this trade are getting to be very expensive. I have a brand new Mazda to spray next week that is code 46V itís like a laser red tri stage. I...
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    I will give it an honest review and it seems guys...

    I will give it an honest review and it seems guys love it or hate it. It is my understanding this gun with the two air caps is more for basecoat but you can clear with it too. I have heard the clear...
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    I will be demoing one soon ,it is supposed to be...

    I will be demoing one soon ,it is supposed to be one heck of a gun.
  26. You donít need adhesion promoter on a new primed...

    You donít need adhesion promoter on a new primed oem or aftermarket cover. It can soften the primer and it will eventually peel.
  27. Why don’t people use an adhesion promoter from...

    Why don’t people use an adhesion promoter from the same company as the paint you are using ? So many people have bad experiences as good with bulldog.....
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    https://www.pbejobbers.com/product-17oz-flexible-f...

    https://www.pbejobbers.com/product-17oz-flexible-foamfast-antiflutter_15997.aspx

    This is the product I suggest, it is intended for your purpose .
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    Dodge you say? Did it look like the yellow...

    Dodge you say? Did it look like the yellow construction foam used around doors and windows? If so that is not what I am suggesting. The product I was talking about is used in door beams hood trunk...
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    Correct ,but many of todayís products are of the...

    Correct ,but many of todayís products are of the closed cell persuasion and do not suck up water.
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    Many companies like sem fusor 3m etc have an anti...

    Many companies like sem fusor 3m etc have an anti flutter foam you could use for this purpose
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    One thing I would like to mention is airflow is...

    One thing I would like to mention is airflow is important to help your coatings flash by the air running past the surface pulling out the solvents.
    If you have a negative pressure booth starting...
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    I have sprayed autowave in a production setting...

    I have sprayed autowave in a production setting for 10 years and prefer the 1.4. I wouldnít dream of using anything smaller for previous reasons stated but thatís just my opinion. Maybe you can get a...
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    1.4 fluid tip is recommended with autowave(I even...

    1.4 fluid tip is recommended with autowave(I even use a 1.5) A 1.3 will overatomize and may cause ďsand piling ď with metallics and pearls. Pretty sure they have a waterborne cap that would be better...
  35. Looks to me like you have an uneven fan pattern...

    Looks to me like you have an uneven fan pattern caused by a bent needle,dirty tip or cap. Not all wb bases are the same but generally nice medium wet coats are the norm followed by increasing your...
  36. Thank you Dave I will do just that.

    Thank you Dave I will do just that.
  37. I dont stress anymore, i use the same...

    I dont stress anymore, i use the same guns,materials and same booth for the last 13 years (now in a new one that has taken some getting used to) and just go spray. Minimum 4 loads a day more when...
  38. Well aware of what you are saying Dave. Just for...

    Well aware of what you are saying Dave. Just for kicks i pulled out the tapemeasure and i am indeed 3-4 inches away. The 5000rp is less sensitive to distance than the other models but for me it has...
  39. You can doubt all you want Dave but it’s 3-4 all...

    You can doubt all you want Dave but it’s 3-4 all day long.I have always sprayed close and fast ,not just me either plenty of guys do
  40. Yes I do,it’s not a super fast gun but with a 1.4...

    Yes I do,it’s not a super fast gun but with a 1.4 set up around 28-30 psi with the 7e7 cap it does just fine for clear.I like a prolite with a TE20 for clear with a 1.4 nozzle.I will have a tekna...
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    I never said anything about $560,you got the...

    I never said anything about $560,you got the wrong guy
  42. Its how i have always painted with an RP which is...

    Its how i have always painted with an RP which is very similar to a conventional gun.The best atomization with that gun is in the 3-4 inch range from the panel. Its notjust me cruise you tube,plenty...
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    This could be any where depending on what you...

    This could be any where depending on what you want done. I sure our shop would be way up in price but we r and i everything and blend. More than likely doing a uniside refinish etc,i bet we would be...
  44. Try the opposite, turn your pressure up anywhere...

    Try the opposite, turn your pressure up anywhere from 30-35(still in recommended range) and move in closer . The sweet spot for that gun is 3-4 inches away from the panel. Im still using the same...
  45. Check your clear tds and set up the gun that way....

    Check your clear tds and set up the gun that way. Satas rule of thumb is if you have to choke down the fluid get a smaller fluid tip.For the materials i spray wide open everything around 30-35 psi...
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    Your correct Henry the booth is for sale but no...

    Your correct Henry the booth is for sale but no bites so far. Itís a great booth with a bake cycle and works well for what it is.Honestly Iím not to fussy and will spray in any old booth but the new...
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    Yes chevelle is mine,I have owned it since 1996...

    Yes chevelle is mine,I have owned it since 1996 and my friends dad bought it used in 1974. Still have it and itís not going anywhere .
  48. These are all done in the old booth Henry,the new...

    These are all done in the old booth Henry,the new booth is 27 feet long the old one is 22.The extra 5 feet will make a difference for sure.Thanks for the kind words Henry!!
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    Thanks Henry,yes you are correct I will be...

    Thanks Henry,yes you are correct I will be spraying in this booth full time.we have a 40 plus year old home made down draft as well. The 13 year old downdraft will be torn down to make room for a...
  50. Thanks Sam,Iím just an employee doing the daily...

    Thanks Sam,Iím just an employee doing the daily grind.I would be super happy with your home set up!!
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