Glaze hard to sand?

[lcorrell]

I am using evercoat products- metal-2-metal, then rage (gold, I think), then metal glaze. For some reason the metal glaze is the hardest to sand of all these products and it seems it should be the easiest to sand. This is really discouraging when trying to stick with the "skim coat" method recomended on this site. Since this stuff is so hard to sand I find that I really don't want to coat the whole area over again when I find a tiny low spot or pinhole. I am very tempted to pull out the old lacquer spot putty for these spots because it sands so easy. I know, I know - I shouldn't even have any of that stuff, but I just haven't found a 2-part product that can replace it. I asked my jobber for something that sands like the old lacquer stuff and the metal glaze is what he recomended. I actually think the metal-2-metal is the easiest to sand of the products I have. Should I use it as glazing? What is everyone else's experience?

Thanks,

[Harry Phinney]

I use USC's All Metal, which is equivalent to the Metal-2-Metal, and also find it to sand nicely. I rarely need to use polyester glazing putty with the All Metal, but when I do use a putty, I use Evercoat's Euro-Soft putty. It sands reasonably easily, and has a very smooth texture.

Harry Phinney

[SHOWCAR FINISH]

glaze is also good to keep solvents in/out and is nearly waterproof. I like it cause it sands close to what's under it. Therefore, everything will sand evenly. But I do hate it when everything's perfect around the area and you want to sand the glaze with a 180 to not disturb the filler around too much. Then it's bad, but you can always hit it with 80 and carefully sand just on the glaze to knock it down. Maybe you can add some honey in it to make it more sandable.

[Len]

I am using evercoat products- metal-2-metal, then rage (gold, I think), then metal glaze. For some reason the metal glaze is the hardest to sand of all these products and it seems it should be the easiest to sand. This is really discouraging when trying to stick with the "skim coat" method recomended on this site. Since this stuff is so hard to sand I find that I really don't want to coat the whole area over again when I find a tiny low spot or pinhole. I am very tempted to pull out the old lacquer spot putty for these spots because it sands so easy. I know, I know - I shouldn't even have any of that stuff, but I just haven't found a 2-part product that can replace it. I asked my jobber for something that sands like the old lacquer stuff and the metal glaze is what he recomended. I actually think the metal-2-metal is the easiest to sand of the products I have. Should I use it as glazing? What is everyone else's experience?

Thanks,

What kind of glaze are you using? Some are harder to sand than others.

[lcorrell]

What kind of glaze are you using? Some are harder to sand than others.

I am using Evercoat "Metal Glaze".

[Serge]

And I find it sands just fine...like just about all other similar products. Naturally, if you compare it to the old red putty it much harder as it has a hard catalysed resin as a base, not lacquer...I don't think you will find anything as easy to sand...

Metal 2 metal is not a glase, it way too porous and pinhole prone to be used as a final glase. The idea with the glase is that they are much more liquid and the fillers are finer so you don't end up with air entrapment as easily as with the other more consistant fillers...

I guess it's a question of addapting to the new materials...The lacquer putties are realy the worse you can use...

I don't use putty when skim coating a large area, I prefer polyester primer which is basically sprayable putty. I used both slick sand and feather fill and they both work great. The advantage of spraying them instead of spreading a skim coat of putty is that the primers lay out smooth and you don't have to sand for hours and make alot of dust taking down the spreader created imperfection on the surface...