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rebeldart
09-26-2006, 08:12 AM
I'm restoring an older Dodge Dart - I've got one area over the rear quarter that I've got fairly straight and ready for filler. One problem is a "buckling" area that needs help (about8 x 10), very slight impression but, push on one area, the other pops out, push on that high spot and out pops the other, you know the drill. Anyway it appears I may need to attempt to shrink some, can I get this done with propane ? I own a MIG but don't have access to oxy-acetalene (unless I can rent). It's a relatively small job. Thanks - any advise appreciated. Also - I can't really get to the back side of this area.

roosgunboss
09-26-2006, 09:18 AM
I did the hood on my 68 Cutlass with propane. Had the spot at bare metal - heated the area for maybe 30 seconds and immediately threw water on it to cool. Repeated twice. Metal doesn't "oil can" anymore.

Phil V
09-26-2006, 09:39 AM
Rebeldart - Do not use a little portable propane torch to try and shrink that metal. Actually for two different reasons. The first reason is that by the sounds of your problem the answer is not a shrinking issue. The other reason is that if it was a shrinking issue the propane torch tip flame can't be dialed down to a sharp point that is needed for shrinking. The right way to heat shrink is to heat a spot about the size of a dime red hot then tap it once or twice with a flat head body hammer then quench it with a wet rag (all in about 10 seconds). The propane torch heats too large of an area, it will cause more problems than it cures.

99% of the time that you are faced with an "oil can" effect problem where the metal pops in then back out if you push on another area is caused by a high spot at some point surrounding the oil canning metal. With the metal popped in - carefully feel with the palm of your hand the area surrounding the oil canning metal. There WILL a ridge or a high spot. Tap tha ridge down with a flat head body hammer and the oil canning with quit popping in and out. Sometimes the high spot causing the oil canning can be a body line or even a door bottom or other metal panel edge. Tap that edge with a hammer like you are forcing the metal towards the metal thats popping in and out. Give this information a try and see if it works (usually does).

rebeldart
09-26-2006, 01:07 PM
Thanks guys - looks like your opinions conflict somewhat ! I'll study the area closer this evening and see if I can't find the area needing attention.

Lost in NJ
09-27-2006, 12:39 PM
Shrinking without being sure of the cause of an oil can can make the problem just move around. Go off to my website to consider some thoughts about your fender.

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