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xtremekustomz
04-17-2015, 09:43 AM
Another job for a neighbor. Painted and installed front and rear bumpers as well as changed out body moulding from painted to black. Wet sanded the whole car (Except for top and hood as they actually need paint).
-Sanded with 3m Trizact 1500 on da sander
-Sanded with 3m Trizact 3000 on da sander
-Buffed with HD Cut on wool pad followed by orange pad
-Polished with HD Polish on white pad
-ONR Wash
-Optimum Opti Seal
-Optimum OCW the next day

Hood: The hood and top have small bubbles under the paint or it appears to be. All I did was buff and did not do any wet sanding. They will need to be painted.

http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/xtremekustomz/hood1_zpswrlf5qed.jpg (http://s633.photobucket.com/user/xtremekustomz/media/hood1_zpswrlf5qed.jpg.html)

http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/xtremekustomz/hood2_zpsu2fh9bm1.jpg (http://s633.photobucket.com/user/xtremekustomz/media/hood2_zpsu2fh9bm1.jpg.html)

Quarter Panel: The whole car looked like this if not worse. I sanded with 3m 1500 Trizact on da followed by 3000 grit trizact on da. Buffed with HD Cut on wool pad followed by an orange pad and polished with HD Polish on white pad.

http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/xtremekustomz/quarter1_zpscwqkhonq.jpg (http://s633.photobucket.com/user/xtremekustomz/media/quarter1_zpscwqkhonq.jpg.html)
1500 grtt:
http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/xtremekustomz/quarter2_zpsuapw8xvt.jpg (http://s633.photobucket.com/user/xtremekustomz/media/quarter2_zpsuapw8xvt.jpg.html)

xtremekustomz
04-17-2015, 09:45 AM
3000 grit:
http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/xtremekustomz/quarter3_zpspq8isfvd.jpg (http://s633.photobucket.com/user/xtremekustomz/media/quarter3_zpspq8isfvd.jpg.html)
Compounded (I forgot to get a pic after it was polished. It removed all the holograms though):
http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/xtremekustomz/quarter5_zpsdwuz68lc.jpg (http://s633.photobucket.com/user/xtremekustomz/media/quarter5_zpsdwuz68lc.jpg.html)
Painted some new bumpers:
http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/xtremekustomz/bumpers_zpsd4y2rdqb.jpg (http://s633.photobucket.com/user/xtremekustomz/media/bumpers_zpsd4y2rdqb.jpg.html)

xtremekustomz
04-17-2015, 09:45 AM
Not the same car as it has been raining here for the last week and I didn't have a chance to get any outside pictures until today. These are the original bumpers that were on the car. All of the painted moulding was changed out with black moulding as well:
http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/xtremekustomz/bmwold2_zpslb7qzxja.jpg (http://s633.photobucket.com/user/xtremekustomz/media/bmwold2_zpslb7qzxja.jpg.html)
http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/xtremekustomz/bmwold3_zpse78jvqmf.jpg (http://s633.photobucket.com/user/xtremekustomz/media/bmwold3_zpse78jvqmf.jpg.html)
Finally got a break in the rain so I was able to get out and shoot a few pictures of the finished product:
http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/xtremekustomz/bmw1_zpsjgzbrius.jpg (http://s633.photobucket.com/user/xtremekustomz/media/bmw1_zpsjgzbrius.jpg.html)
http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/xtremekustomz/bmw2_zpsxw0tvici.jpg (http://s633.photobucket.com/user/xtremekustomz/media/bmw2_zpsxw0tvici.jpg.html)

xtremekustomz
04-17-2015, 09:46 AM
http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/xtremekustomz/bmw3_zpsowmdcxpy.jpg (http://s633.photobucket.com/user/xtremekustomz/media/bmw3_zpsowmdcxpy.jpg.html)
http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/xtremekustomz/bmw4_zps3cllqrw6.jpg (http://s633.photobucket.com/user/xtremekustomz/media/bmw4_zps3cllqrw6.jpg.html)
http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/xtremekustomz/bmw5_zpspud3nnhp.jpg (http://s633.photobucket.com/user/xtremekustomz/media/bmw5_zpspud3nnhp.jpg.html)
http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/xtremekustomz/bmw6_zps2o6pi8bj.jpg (http://s633.photobucket.com/user/xtremekustomz/media/bmw6_zps2o6pi8bj.jpg.html)

xtremekustomz
04-17-2015, 09:47 AM
http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/xtremekustomz/bmw7_zpsq4ys7bpl.jpg (http://s633.photobucket.com/user/xtremekustomz/media/bmw7_zpsq4ys7bpl.jpg.html)

Henry
04-17-2015, 02:43 PM
I like seeing your work. You always do a really nice job.

You are a lucky man. You're lucky there was enough clear on the car for all that sanding and buffing. What is HD, anyway? You're also lucky you didn't get overspray on the family washer & dryer!

The hood looks really good from here as does the whole car. So the only things you painted are the front & rear bumper covers- YES?

I suppose you detailed the interior as well - YES?

I won't even ask how much you charged but I hope they appreciate how great the car looks.

Henry

xtremekustomz
04-17-2015, 03:02 PM
I like seeing your work. You always do a really nice job.

You are a lucky man. You're lucky there was enough clear on the car for all that sanding and buffing. What is HD, anyway? You're also lucky you didn't get overspray on the family washer & dryer!

The hood looks really good from here as does the whole car. So the only things you painted are the front & rear bumper covers- YES?

I suppose you detailed the interior as well - YES?

I won't even ask how much you charged but I hope they appreciate how great the car looks.

Henry

Yeah I there was plenty of clear. However there wasn't enough on the top and hood to get rid of all of the perfections. The paint was pretty flat to start with so I really didn't spend long doing any sanding. As for spraying I usually just set up a tent outside to spray under. I brought them back in the garage for sanding/polishing.

HD is a brand of compound and polishing products. They don't have any oils or fillers which I love. What you see is what you get!

As for painting all I did was the two bumpers. This time I actually didn't have to do the interior; it was spotless. Just cleaned out the driver side where I got in and out to move the car.

I think I was pretty fair on the price. Actually did it by cost of materials and an hourly rate. I still cut them a discount even after figuring up the hourly rate. I spend 25+ hours on it and used $350 in materials (some of which had already been paid for by another customer but still figured it in the price). I figured the labor at $30 an hour which came up to $750+$350(materials)= $1100. I charged them $1000. When he came by the first day while I was working on it I showed him what sanding and buffing could do and he really liked it. I asked him if there was a price he didn't want to go over and he asked if I could do it for $2500. If I was a crook that probably would have been the price but that isn't how I am. It did let me know he was willing to pay for the work to be done which is nice. Most people are really cheap and don't know how much time and money goes into doing something like that.

They have a Nissan 240 that someone just backed into last week too. Dented the rear quarter in pretty bad. Got a quote for $1500 to fix it from a body shop. I think I am going to let someone else do that one. I've got a 2002 Toyota SR5 supposed to be coming middle of next month (guy is coming from 5 hours away to bring it) and I want a break in between. Getting married next weekend and going for a week honeymoon so a little time off is needed.

Len
04-17-2015, 05:19 PM
Yeah I there was plenty of clear. However there wasn't enough on the top and hood to get rid of all of the perfections. The paint was pretty flat to start with so I really didn't spend long doing any sanding. As for spraying I usually just set up a tent outside to spray under. I brought them back in the garage for sanding/polishing.

HD is a brand of compound and polishing products. They don't have any oils or fillers which I love. What you see is what you get!

As for painting all I did was the two bumpers. This time I actually didn't have to do the interior; it was spotless. Just cleaned out the driver side where I got in and out to move the car.

I think I was pretty fair on the price. Actually did it by cost of materials and an hourly rate. I still cut them a discount even after figuring up the hourly rate. I spend 25+ hours on it and used $350 in materials (some of which had already been paid for by another customer but still figured it in the price). I figured the labor at $30 an hour which came up to $750+$350(materials)= $1100. I charged them $1000. When he came by the first day while I was working on it I showed him what sanding and buffing could do and he really liked it. I asked him if there was a price he didn't want to go over and he asked if I could do it for $2500. If I was a crook that probably would have been the price but that isn't how I am. It did let me know he was willing to pay for the work to be done which is nice. Most people are really cheap and don't know how much time and money goes into doing something like that.

They have a Nissan 240 that someone just backed into last week too. Dented the rear quarter in pretty bad. Got a quote for $1500 to fix it from a body shop. I think I am going to let someone else do that one. I've got a 2002 Toyota SR5 supposed to be coming middle of next month (guy is coming from 5 hours away to bring it) and I want a break in between. Getting married next weekend and going for a week honeymoon so a little time off is needed.

Getting married? Congratulations, live happily ever after. :proposeto

Henry
04-18-2015, 11:34 AM
Yeah I there was plenty of clear. However there wasn't enough on the top and hood to get rid of all of the perfections. The paint was pretty flat to start with so I really didn't spend long doing any sanding. As for spraying I usually just set up a tent outside to spray under. I brought them back in the garage for sanding/polishing.

HD is a brand of compound and polishing products. They don't have any oils or fillers which I love. What you see is what you get!

As for painting all I did was the two bumpers. This time I actually didn't have to do the interior; it was spotless. Just cleaned out the driver side where I got in and out to move the car.

I think I was pretty fair on the price. Actually did it by cost of materials and an hourly rate. I still cut them a discount even after figuring up the hourly rate. I spend 25+ hours on it and used $350 in materials (some of which had already been paid for by another customer but still figured it in the price). I figured the labor at $30 an hour which came up to $750+$350(materials)= $1100. I charged them $1000. When he came by the first day while I was working on it I showed him what sanding and buffing could do and he really liked it. I asked him if there was a price he didn't want to go over and he asked if I could do it for $2500. If I was a crook that probably would have been the price but that isn't how I am. It did let me know he was willing to pay for the work to be done which is nice. Most people are really cheap and don't know how much time and money goes into doing something like that.

They have a Nissan 240 that someone just backed into last week too. Dented the rear quarter in pretty bad. Got a quote for $1500 to fix it from a body shop. I think I am going to let someone else do that one. I've got a 2002 Toyota SR5 supposed to be coming middle of next month (guy is coming from 5 hours away to bring it) and I want a break in between. Getting married next weekend and going for a week honeymoon so a little time off is needed.

I wouldn't push for price you charged but appreciate you sharing it. This guy must have money to spend in willing to go to $2,500. So if you charged $1k, you already know he's got some $ left 'when' you paint the roof & hood.

Understanding People: On the one hand, you really earned your money in exchange for making that Beamer look new again. On the other hand, you must be nuts charging a grand for what so many will view as a nice "wax job".

So many people take their cars to 'detail' shops and for less than $100 get a car back the same day that looks really good (again); until it rains. You know many people will tell this guy he got SO ripped off and so few others will understand what had to be done to make that car look like that again.

Autobody repair, paint, upholstery, detailing and other spinoffs involve a lot of work that most people cannot appreciate (I'm not talking about the illegals spreading filler silicone waxes over a car). I'm talking about people like you who use the tools and products and have the knowledge to know how far they can go in sanding and buffing. I'm still surprised you had enough clear to sand and buff the way you did.

Here is the "BOSS" with a view of sanding OEM paint:

http://www.autobodystore.com/rsw.shtml

Good luck next week and be happy!

Henry