View Full Version : Ingersoll-Rand 270G gun good for anything?
mdbrandy
07-01-2006, 11:47 PM
A year or two ago, I bought an IR 270G gun from Lowes. I got it to spray some suspension parts, using my little Craftsman piece of junk compressor. That worked OK. Now, I'm "upscaling" to paint a car or three. Got a nice 2-stage, 80 gal compressor (15.3CFM), and I'll be sinking money into some more stuff soon. One thing being a decent gun. I've read in these pages that it's a good idea to spray primer with one gun, and keep your good gun for the paint. So the question is, will this IR be good enough for the primer? I didn't know anything about tip sizes and such when I bought it. It apparently has a 1.5. Is that too small for most primers?
http://www.irtools.com/lowes/270g.html
In case it helps. So far, I have no idea whether I could get different tips for it or not. Doesn't look promising from the web searching I've done so far...
Thanks.
Mark
Roch_Greg
07-02-2006, 08:44 AM
I'm glad you posted this thread as I saw that gun at Lowes one day and wondered about using it for a Primer.
I'd say keep it for primering and contact IR for available parts (tip/caps).
Looking at the parts diagram it does look as though other tip/cap combinations may be limited or non-existent.
mdbrandy
07-02-2006, 08:55 AM
I'm glad you posted this thread as I saw that gun at Lowes one day and wondered about using it for a Primer.
I'd say keep it for primering and contact IR for available parts (tip/caps).
Looking at the parts diagram it does look as though other tip/cap combinations may be limited or non-existent.
So a 1.5 tip is OK for normal epoxy or 2K primers?
Roch_Greg
07-02-2006, 09:24 AM
Generally speaking I've seen anywhere from 1.3 to 1.8 listed for for Primers but again it will depend on the gun/paint combination.
Pull the Spec/Product sheet for the Primers you intend to use before buying and see what they reccommend (it'll be listed). Try to match the product to the gun.
If your not "dead on" you may still be able to get away with it by "tweaking" the gun to either increase/decrease the fluid flow to compensate
PS:
You have more wiggle room with Primer (which in most cases is going to be sanded) than with the top/clear coats where sanding is reserved for fixing mistakes.
mdbrandy
07-02-2006, 10:13 AM
Generally speaking I've seen anywhere from 1.3 to 1.8 listed for for Primers but again it will depend on the gun/paint combination.
Pull the Spec/Product sheet for the Primers you intend to use before buying and see what they reccommend (it'll be listed). Try to match the product to the gun.
If your not "dead on" you may still be able to get away with it by "tweaking" the gun to either increase/decrease the fluid flow to compensate
PS:
You have more wiggle room with Primer (which in most cases is going to be sanded) than with the top/clear coats where sanding is reserved for fixing mistakes.
Sounds good. I haven't settled on brands yet. Here in town we have both PPG and Dupont distributors. The PPG is within an auto parts store, and they weren't all that helpful when I went in to talk with them. At the Dupont store, I went in to talk with them and they gave me prices, recommendations, and handed me the P-sheets on both Chromabase and Chromapremier without me asking so I could take them home and look at them. So I'll probably end up using DuPont stuff :).
Thanks.
Mark
Roch_Greg
07-02-2006, 04:35 PM
Yeah I would say your better off going to a jobber (autobody supplier) than the an auto parts store.
Dupont Primers are good but can be expensive (relatively speaking), if your jobber sells Dupont he'll probaly also carry Nason products as well.
You can pull the P-Sheets for those any other Dupont products yourself.
Visit Dupont Performance Coatings (http://performancecoatings.dupont.com) and select "automotive finishes".
From there select "products" from the top, then "technical information" from the side bar. You don't have to register.
Good Luck
Greg
mdbrandy
07-02-2006, 05:41 PM
Dupont Primers are good but can be expensive (relatively speaking), if your jobber sells Dupont he'll probaly also carry Nason products as well.
You can pull the P-Sheets for those any other Dupont products yourself.
Visit Dupont Performance Coatings (http://performancecoatings.dupont.com) and select "automotive finishes".
From there select "products" from the top, then "technical information" from the side bar. You don't have to register.
Good Luck
Greg
Excellent! thanks for the Link. They do carry Nason too, but for the color/clear, they were steering me toward the Chromabase. I haven't talked primers at this point. I'm probably still a month away from being ready to do anything serious, but still collecting info...tonight I work on the 220V subpanel and wiring to get the compressor online :).
Roch_Greg
07-02-2006, 05:49 PM
I've been using Chromabase from the day I started this hobby and can't say anything bad about it.
It's a good paint and very easy to apply
César
03-15-2010, 03:48 AM
Roch_Greg i am agreed with you
it is so simple and easy
Roch_Greg i am agreed with you
it is so simple and easy
César
Have you used other paint products? I find that Chromabase doesn't cover well and you need to use the correct color sealer or you'll have problems. Other paint brands can cover in one or two coats when spraying the same color with no sealer. However, I agree that Chromabase gives you a good finish when used properly.
F1 Diesel
03-16-2010, 11:31 PM
One thing that may be of value to you if you decide to use chromabase and not chromapremier would be to use to the chromapremier "activator" in the chromabase. Activating the chromabase will make it harder than usual and this helps with chipping, etc.
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