Sharpe planitum

[sarchevyman]

I know these guns are disco, but I have pick up two of them since I have heard a lot of positive comments on how well they work with little air. Yes they are a little slow, but compared to my finish line III these spray like a million dollar gun to me.:D No cloud of paint in the air, and laided down two coats of epoxy like glass. Found both of mine on ebay, brand new with manual. Guys with LV air problems check these out if you can find one, they work great! Happy Holidays, Steve

[kenc]

Great gun.
I sprayed my Morris - which is a small car - and my 80 gallon 2 stage compressor cycled ONCE per coat for the whole car.
Very economical on air, and a nice finish.
Sharpe has gone to hell with the acquisition by Graco - now run by snot nosed 19 year old marketing weenies I guess.
Ken

[Roch_Greg]

they may have gone the way of "spinning mirrored balls" hanging above the dance floor, but it's the first gun I owned and still continue to use.

Others may argue this point but I find for the then price/performance ratio it was hard to beat. Esp for a novice (which I am incidentally) who isn't painting full time and doesn't have a spec rated booth.

[reckless]

they may have gone the way of "spinning mirrored balls" hanging above the dance floor, but it's the first gun I owned and still continue to use.

Others may argue this point but I find for the then price/performance ratio it was hard to beat. Esp for a novice (which I am incidentally) who isn't painting full time and doesn't have a spec rated booth.

i want one
is the shapon saber ii the same gun?

[Roch_Greg]

No I'm afraid not. I don't think they've been on sale for quite some time but show up new and used on EBay from time to time.

[All Dry]

No I'm afraid not. I don't think they've been on sale for quite some time but show up new and used on EBay from time to time. I see you are still here Greg. I havent seen one of your posts in a while good to see you are still around . Mike

[reckless]

oh man i got one today
and boy o boy
this thing is giving iwata a run for the money, ive never gotten better results straight off the gun straight out of the box.
1.5 tip sprayed at 50-55 pounds, it does have more overspray than my supernova but not as much overspray you would expect from 55 pounds
12017

it is slow but man this thing is the boss
this is sprayed over a sanded panel with 800 grit, i did a panel with black base and then clear and its just as good, man this is a bad ass base gun too

[xchaser]

Were did you actually find the platinum? The photo looks nice what is the thing you painted cant make it out in the photo

[reckless]

Were did you actually find the platinum? The photo looks nice what is the thing you painted cant make it out in the photo
its an old mercedes fender
i got it off ebay
:D

[xchaser]

How's the platinum going reckless you been using it much? Would love to see some more photos ;)

[reckless]

12089
How's the platinum going reckless you been using it much? Would love to see some more photos ;)

man this gun is incredible, i must admit i thought it would be impossible to match iwatas finish but this gun does it though and more
it is a slow gun even with a 1.5 man if u ever get a chance to get one get it you wont be disapointed. Keep in mind the picture is a reflection now thats what a call a mirror!
the fan is huge as well.
im trying to get a sgf98

[smisco]

Just put my Platinum up on E-bay, nice gun-1.3 & 1.5 needle-nozzle sets both #2000 and #3000 air caps---if anyone is interested

Thanks

[Len]

Just put my Platinum up on E-bay, nice gun-1.3 & 1.5 needle-nozzle sets both #2000 and #3000 air caps---if anyone is interested

Thanks

Did it see much use? How long ago did you last use it? I wonder if parts are still available.

[smisco]

Probably only used once or twice a year on average since I bought ---last time was probably 8 months ago----cleaned it up a bit before I put it on e-bay, sprayed a little reducer through it-no signs of leaking seals or any issues
There are still repair kits and and parts for these guns being sold on e-bay--

[reckless]

Probably only used once or twice a year on average since I bought ---last time was probably 8 months ago----cleaned it up a bit before I put it on e-bay, sprayed a little reducer through it-no signs of leaking seals or any issues
There are still repair kits and and parts for these guns being sold on e-bay--


selling a platinum, dude u got to be nuts lol
i cant imagine a 1.3 cause the 1.5 is slow.
i just got a sgf98 and man this thing is king for metallics, its rather loud though, but anything that has 50psi running through it would be.
i wanna sell my sagola but they dont sell well on ebay
go figure

[Len]

selling a platinum, dude u got to be nuts lol
i cant imagine a 1.3 cause the 1.5 is slow.
i just got a sgf98 and man this thing is king for metallics, its rather loud though, but anything that has 50psi running through it would be.
i wanna sell my sagola but they dont sell well on ebay
go figure

You're kidding right? I used a Platinum for a year when they first hit the market, they were part of the HVLP changeover and went the way of all the early HVLP guns. You can rave all you want but those guns didn't atomize well but did cut back on the overspray. The SGF98 is ok for metallics but is not a professional quality tool.

What model Sagola do you have? We are now using the 3300 Pro, the 4500 Xtreme and the Mini and they all outperform all of the guns in our paint shop. We have customers that have sold their Sata and Iwata guns after using the 4500.

[Jayson M]

We have customers that have sold their Sata and Iwata guns after using the 4500.
I call BS on that statement......

[Len]

I call BS on that statement......

After using the Sagola 4400 he sold two new Satas and two Iwatas and bought a Sagola 4500 and is buying several more.
Don't believe it? Oh well....

[smisco]

My biggest problem with the Platinum is the speed --A few years back I bought a Sata 3000 rp that I use for clear- I fell in love with how quickly you can move around a car with this gun, just seems to fit my style better---I am thinking about getting a Tekna Prolite for base--Any feedback about the Prolite from Len or others would be appreciated--

[Jayson M]

nope I don't,the 4400 is a turd,and now its just one guy not several owners ,too funny.Thats the only reason you keep him around is cuz he buys guns off of you....

[Len]

nope I don't,the 4400 is a turd,and now its just one guy not several owners ,too funny.Thats the only reason you keep him around is cuz he buys guns off of you....

As far as I can tell you don't know what you're talking about. What tip and cap were you using on the 4400 and what products did you spray? We used a 1.3 and the clear cap and it worked much better than other new guns we were evaluating. By the way it was only one guy that sold his Sata and Iwata guns after using the Sagola but he's knows how to spray paint and loves his Sagola guns. We probably have over a hundred people, both pros and DIYers, using 4400 and 4500 guns and so far no complaints only praise for their performance so far you stand alone with your poor evaluation. Maybe you should give Sagola another try. :)

By the way we just had a custom painter in California purchase three 4500 and two 3300 guns. Maybe his evaluation was different than yours.

[Jayson M]

Len we have been over this before;)I tried a 4400 extreme with the clear cap RX102 1.4 tip with sikkens superior 250.There have been others who don't agree with the guns performance.

[Len]

Len we have been over this before;)I tried a 4400 extreme with the clear cap RX102 1.4 tip with sikkens superior 250.There have been others who don't agree with the guns performance.

I don't know what the problem was with your work, we used the 4400 to spray both single stage and base/clear Glasurit and the finishes were the best we ever produced. Now the 4500 produces the same result. Much better than any other guns we have used with less overspray and easy cleanup.

[Jayson M]

I don't know what the problem was with your work, we used the 4400 to spray both single stage and base/clear Glasurit and the finishes were the best we ever produced. Now the 4500 produces the same result. Much better than any other guns we have used with less overspray and easy cleanup.

I don't have any problems with my work,I can get excellent results with any gun I use.I don't like the gun and would rather use something else due to atomization and lack of speed.Not everyone is going to buy into your sales pitch as no gun is perfect for everyone.

[nova]

nope I don't,the 4400 is a turd,and now its just one guy not several owners ,too funny.Thats the only reason you keep him around is cuz he buys guns off of you....

:judge_10:

[Len]

I don't have any problems with my work,I can get excellent results with any gun I use.I don't like the gun and would rather use something else due to atomization and lack of speed.Not everyone is going to buy into your sales pitch as no gun is perfect for everyone.

If you're saying it doesn't atomize well then I know that you have no clue about spraying with the 4400. It may not be as fast as a Sata but it definitely atomizes great and produces an extremely thin, smooth coating. I sell a lot of tools and spray guns and rarely gush over them but this gun is the best I've used and it isn't priced ridiculously high like other guns. It seems like every time you have something to say it becomes a pissing contest with you knowing more than me. I know nobody knows as much as you but when it comes to Sagola vs Sata your blinders should be removed and you should see what you're missing. Sata is a quality tool but it's way overpriced and does not perform up to that price especially for people that are not spraying for a living.

[Len]

:judge_10:

Don't be shy, tell us your experience with Sagola and how long you've been using it. :?

Or at least why you have the ability to judge.

[Jayson M]

If you're saying it doesn't atomize well then I know that you have no clue about spraying with the 4400. It may not be as fast as a Sata but it definitely atomizes great and produces an extremely thin, smooth coating. I sell a lot of tools and spray guns and rarely gush over them but this gun is the best I've used and it isn't priced ridiculously high like other guns. It seems like every time you have something to say it becomes a pissing contest with you knowing more than me. I know nobody knows as much as you but when it comes to Sagola vs Sata your blinders should be removed and you should see what you're missing. Sata is a quality tool but it's way overpriced and does not perform up to that price especially for people that are not spraying for a living.
No pissing contest,just telling the truth.I guess I don't know what I'm talking about and your full of shit so were even.And for the record for those who don't know you can get a nice smooth coat of galsso medium solids clear with a primer gun...
Until you have sprayed superior 250 and used an RP (which you never have)spare me the bull.Adios

[Len]

No pissing contest,just telling the truth.I guess I don't know what I'm talking about and your full of shit so were even.
Until you have sprayed superior 250 and used an RP (which you never have)spare me the bull.Adios

Always a pissing contest with you but you're right about one thing, you don't know what you're taking about when it comes to Sagola. Just more pissing. We shoot high-end street rods and different exotics and have been doing it for over 40 years so we know a quality finish when we produce one. I wouldn't be debating the value of the Sagola guns if I hadn't experienced it's performance. Maybe you just had a bad day when you used it.

[Jayson M]

Always a pissing contest with you but you're right about one thing, you don't know what you're taking about when it comes to Sagola. Just more pissing. We shoot high-end street rods and different exotics and have been doing it for over 40 years so we know a quality finish when we produce one. I wouldn't be debating the value of the Sagola guns if I hadn't experienced it's performance. Maybe you just had a bad day when you used it.

You know I might listen to you if every new gun you sold "didn't spray like Glass"it is just the same old line to make a sale as is this web site.I demoed the gun for a week didn't like it end of story.High end....now that is funny

[Len]

You know I might listen to you if every new gun you sold "didn't spray like Glass"it is just the same old line to make a sale as is this web site.I demoed the gun for a week didn't like it end of story.High end....now that is funny

No not every gun sprays like glass, Sata courted me for a couple of years and I said that they allowed me to get a very even finish with less chance of runs and dry spots but, at that time, they had more orange peel than guns like the DeVilbiss Plus. The Plus is still an excellent gun for the money and I do promote it because of it's value. The Tekna is a good gun and DeVilbiss is always coming up with improvements to their products. Sharpe guns are ok for inexperienced painters but I don't like to promote them because I think that people will outgrow them quickly. This thread started out about the Sharpe Platinum which was one of the first HVLP guns that produced a decent paint job while having minimum air requirements but the finish it left was not nearly as good as the more modern guns.

When I find ANY product that doesn't perform well I don't sell it and I don't pan it. The only exception to this rule is cheap, throwaway tools, I may sell them but I don't say they are good tools when they are not. But when I find something special, like the Sagola guns, I'll shout it from the roof tops and it has NOTHING to do with sales and has EVERYTHING to do with making my customers happy with the tools and materials they purchase here. Sata makes excellent guns and I do sell them to people that want them but I don't promote them on this site at this time because they don't allow us to advertise competitive pricing so we removed them from the site. If and when Sata allows us to advertise and price their products online we may reconsider but we won't allow any company to dictate their pricing policy on our site.

[style]

I call BS on that statement......

Really? Are we really going through this again? I offered you the stupid sata rp I had at one point because you're so in love with them. I was lucky to get 450 for those two satas new in box and as for the iwata the super nova is the biggest fraud ever harbor freight guns are more user friendly. I even sold a new tekna just last week for 250 and through it all I use my sagola 4400 , 4500, and 3300 on a daily basis.. something about your latest posts makes me rethink your credibility , or maybe its the fact that they only let you work on older cars cause after seeing what guns you use they dont trust you to work on newer stuff that needs to come out right..

[style]

My biggest problem with the Platinum is the speed --A few years back I bought a Sata 3000 rp that I use for clear- I fell in love with how quickly you can move around a car with this gun, just seems to fit my style better---I am thinking about getting a Tekna Prolite for base--Any feedback about the Prolite from Len or others would be appreciated--

Go with a copper/quick clean the prolite sucks overspray and material waste rivals sata 4k rp..

[style]

Len we have been over this before;)I tried a 4400 extreme with the clear cap RX102 1.4 tip with sikkens superior 250.There have been others who don't agree with the guns performance.

Sagola works great with sikkens hs+ energypro 250, keykwick crossfire 5020 etc , sounds like operator error to me... maybe you should talk to your sikkens rep about getting into one of akzos painting classes...

[Jayson M]

Sagola works great with sikkens hs+ energypro 250, keykwick crossfire 5020 etc , sounds like operator error to me... maybe you should talk to your sikkens rep about getting into one of akzos painting classes...
I was waiting for you to show up,hs plus and energy pro are far from superior 250,obviuosly you still can't read dummy.I never said I couldn't get excellent results with the gun I just don't like it.Does Len give you a Reach around when he has you guys bent over:D You guys need to come up for air sometime this place has turned into a joke...

[Jayson M]

Further more you had a 4000 rp which is the slowest out of the 3 rp's and you had the wrong tip in for what you were spraying.You were also using the shitty supernovas,so unless you tried a w-400 or any of the other RP's save the BS

[style]

Further more you had a 4000 rp which is the slowest out of the 3 rp's and you had the wrong tip in for what you were spraying.You were also using the shitty supernovas,so unless you tried a w-400 or any of the other RP's save the BS

1.3 and 1.4 is what I tried and the material waste and finish it left was more then disappointing, personally I dont like haveing to buff afterwards to hide what a shitty gun left behind but hey thats just me, forgive me if I have a thing for quality and care about my work..

do use all a favor and go take a cold shower its unbelievable how hot and bothered you get when people express their positive experiences after you failed at them..

[Doo hicki]

I am a big fan of Harbor freight guns. They work fabulously

[Jayson M]

Yeah that is quality work right there,looks like corn on the cob.
http://autobodystore.com/forum/showthread.php?21232-Question-about-Sagola/page3&highlight=sagola+4400+extreme

[All Dry]

[QUOTE=Doo hicki;229239]I am a big fan of Harbor freight guns. They work fabulously[/QUOTE good for you clown

[style]

Yeah that is quality work right there,looks like corn on the cob.
http://autobodystore.com/forum/showthread.php?21232-Question-about-Sagola/page3&highlight=sagola+4400+extreme

Post #38 explains everything.you are so right...

[Jayson M]

forgive me if I have a thing for quality and care about my work..


Ya Obviously
http://autobodystore.com/forum/showthread.php?24770-ever-start-a-project-and-the-next-day-think-shit-why-did-i/page2

Anyone that fixes and paints a car and leaves the frame bent is certainly quality conscious......
Funny how Len went from multiple posts saying the sagola was so good he had customers selling their iwatas and satas after using one, to actually have only one customer that did. Wonder what other lies you backyard hacks are pushing. I certainly hope most of the people here arent stupid enough to drink your cool aid. and for your sake style, I hope len at least gives you some warning so you dont choke :)

[Len]

Ya Obviously
http://autobodystore.com/forum/showthread.php?24770-ever-start-a-project-and-the-next-day-think-shit-why-did-i/page2

Anyone that fixes and paints a car and leaves the frame bent is certainly quality conscious......
Funny how Len went from multiple posts saying the sagola was so good he had customers selling their iwatas and satas after using one, to actually have only one customer that did. Wonder what other lies you backyard hacks are pushing. I certainly hope most of the people here arent stupid enough to drink your cool aid. and for your sake style, I hope len at least gives you some warning so you dont choke :)

Now you're being childish Jayson. Grow up and be a little more professional.

[style]

Ya Obviously
http://autobodystore.com/forum/showthread.php?24770-ever-start-a-project-and-the-next-day-think-shit-why-did-i/page2

Anyone that fixes and paints a car and leaves the frame bent is certainly quality conscious......
Funny how Len went from multiple posts saying the sagola was so good he had customers selling their iwatas and satas after using one, to actually have only one customer that did. Wonder what other lies you backyard hacks are pushing. I certainly hope most of the people here arent stupid enough to drink your cool aid. and for your sake style, I hope len at least gives you some warning so you dont choke :)

LOL, I didn't leave it that way thank you for your genuine concern, I have a few local friends that made the switch after seeing the light..

SERIOUSLY! NOW WHAT DID KOOLAID EVER DO WRONG?(MAN NOTHING SATISFIES YOU?)
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu214/larson4123/kool-aid-man-2_480x480_zps210ab04b.jpg (http://s649.photobucket.com/user/larson4123/media/kool-aid-man-2_480x480_zps210ab04b.jpg.html)

KEEP IT UP SUNSHINE AND I MIGHT HAVE TO GO KICK YUR BUTT!!

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu214/larson4123/fat-venom_480x480_zps573ccac3.jpg (http://s649.photobucket.com/user/larson4123/media/fat-venom_480x480_zps573ccac3.jpg.html)

PS THANKS FOR BRINGING UP THAT OLD POST SHOWING HOW I USED 15POUNDS TO SHOOT A COMPLETE,LOL LETS SEE YOUR PINCHI SATA PULL THAT SHIT OFF AMIGO..

[reckless]

You're kidding right? I used a Platinum for a year when they first hit the market, they were part of the HVLP changeover and went the way of all the early HVLP guns. You can rave all you want but those guns didn't atomize well but did cut back on the overspray. The SGF98 is ok for metallics but is not a professional quality tool.

What model Sagola do you have? We are now using the 3300 Pro, the 4500 Xtreme and the Mini and they all outperform all of the guns in our paint shop. We have customers that have sold their Sata and Iwata guns after using the 4500.

i have the xtreme sagola and professional quality? i give it 4.5 stars for precision machining, a piece of aluminum cant be that expensive, yea it has no seals yada yada, oh and the triggering sucks, most of my guns have a softer spring for the air only triggering but the sagola has the same spring pressure for both triggering and fluid. i think for the price all you are paying for is precision machining. i believe its a good gun for non high solids.
i think i need to sell that and get me a plus.Yea the platinum is slow but thats my style.
the sgf98 is super with metalics. ive yet to try a devilbiss.:brainiac:

[Len]

i have the xtreme sagola and professional quality? i give it 4.5 stars for precision machining, a piece of aluminum cant be that expensive, yea it has no seals yada yada, oh and the triggering sucks, most of my guns have a softer spring for the air only triggering but the sagola has the same spring pressure for both triggering and fluid. i think for the price all you are paying for is precision machining. i believe its a good gun for non high solids.
i think i need to sell that and get me a plus.Yea the platinum is slow but thats my style.
the sgf98 is super with metalics. ive yet to try a devilbiss.:brainiac:

It's obvious that you have no idea what you're talking about. Most of the sales for the Sagola 4500 on the June Special are to guys that already have this gun and like it so much they want one or two more. We also have a large custom paint shop in California that just purchased five Sagolas because they know their performance. So go play with you Platinum that you're so happy with, we also know how they perform.

[Phil V]

I think different guns fit different people better. The Sharp Platinum was a great beginner gun but as stated was really S- L- O- W. Which again would be an asset for a novice painter as opposed to a gun like the Sata Jet 90 that could really hose the paint on. Hosing paint on is great for well experienced professional painter but would be a source of serious runs for a novice painter.

I bought a Devilbiss Tekna a while back and really didn't like the way the gun sprayed. Not impressed with Sata guns in general. The ARE good guns but not that good to try and command the prices they want for their guns. $800+ list price for a new Sata then another $300 if you want to change the fluid tip from say a 1.3 to a 1.4. That kind of money is fine if you are a pro painter and can write off the cost of your spray guns in your taxes every year.

There is NO definitive "best spray gun" because different people have different spraying techniques. Those different spraying techniques will make a certain gun spray good for them but maybe not for someone else who uses a different spraying technique.

It's like Ford, Chevy an Dodge. They all do the same thing but each company has their own following.

Some of you guys will disagree with this but I think the more experienced a pro painter gets the more comfortable he gets with many different spray guns. My point being a well experienced professional painter can get the most out of what any paint gun is capable of delivering. A pro painter should be able to get professional results with just about any spray gun capable of holding a decent spray pattern and reasonable atomization. I have an Iwata LVLP copy that I really like to spray with. It delivers what I want out of a spray gun. It has seen several $500 guns come and go in my shop. But then I don't have a spray gun in my hand 8 hours a day 5 days a week. Maybe then I would buy a $800 spray gun (and write it off on my taxes).

[Jayson M]

Well said Phil...

[reckless]

It's obvious that you have no idea what you're talking about. Most of the sales for the Sagola 4500 on the June Special are to guys that already have this gun and like it so much they want one or two more. We also have a large custom paint shop in California that just purchased five Sagolas because they know their performance. So go play with you Platinum that you're so happy with, we also know how they perform.

i will ask again
anyone tried thier sagola with a high solids
i own a sata and i dont like it for high solids
i like the platinum cause i can lay the shit on and on and it wont run.
can someone please buy my sagola so i can get a devilbiss
:ninja:

[Doo hicki]

Yeah that is quality work right there,looks like corn on the cob.
http://autobodystore.com/forum/showthread.php?21232-Question-about-Sagola/page3&highlight=sagola+4400+extreme

I would hate to be the next painter after him. Mask everything. Sheesh. PROBLEMS:yikes

[style]

I would hate to be the next painter after him. Mask everything. Sheesh. PROBLEMS:yikes

When the customer doesnt want to pay and are given a choice this is what they choose to pay for this is what they get..

[Len]

i will ask again
anyone tried thier sagola with a high solids
i own a sata and i dont like it for high solids
i like the platinum cause i can lay the shit on and on and it wont run.
can someone please buy my sagola so i can get a devilbiss
:ninja:

What model Sagola (tip size and air cap) do you have and how much do you want for it?

[reckless]

What model Sagola (tip size and air cap) do you have and how much do you want for it?


extreme
two air caps one clear and one aqua
as much as i can get

[All Dry]

I would hate to be the next painter after him. Mask everything. Sheesh. PROBLEMS:yikes I would bet you have never even painted a car or anything for that matter.

[Len]

extreme
two air caps one clear and one aqua
as much as i can get

How about the tip size? Send me a private message with your contact information.