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05-26-2006, 10:51 PM
i was given 2 binks #7 spray guns and one binks 2001. the binks guns have 36 needles 36 inner screw caps and 2 different outer caps a 36sg and a36sd.the other gun is a binks 2001 has a 563a needle a 63b inner cap a 66se outer cap was wondering which would be best for the base coat and primer and clear i am not sure what primer i will be using but will be using chroma base bc silver metallic and clear. any help with which nozzles or if this set up will be ok,any help on setups and any tricks .how is the quality of these guns i have a 95 fire bird i will be painting 2 from quarters one door and the pillars lower back so not a lot to paint any help would be grateful
thank you pat
05-27-2006, 09:25 AM
Pat, the Binks Model 7 is an excellent high volume high production gun that has been in use for at least 4 decades. You could hose the side of a semi truck and trailer with that gun. It is well suited to any type of primer and topcoats in lacquer, synthetic enamel and acrylic enamel. In a pinch it could be dialed down to apply basecoat for the newer basecoat/clearcoat paints. It was NOT designed to properly atomize acrylic urethane clearcoats or single stage urethane topcoat paints. What that means is that it will do a crappy job of applying urethane clearcoats and single stage urethanes. They can't break up the urethane topcoat paints into fine enough droplets (atomization) so what you can expect is excessive orange and and runs. Using todays current paint materials the old Model 7's make excellent primer guns with just about any combination of tips, needles and air caps.
I haven't used the 2001 Mach I but it does not have a good reputation among professional painters for being spraying urethane top coat paints. If you plan on spraying urethane topcoat paints then you will need to get your hands on a spray gun that was designed to handle those type of paints. I'm all for saving a buck and not wasting money on things I really don't need and can make other tools do a good job without buying new ones. Unfortunately with spray guns either they work right or they don't, so you can make a spray gun do things it wasn't designed to do. You would be better of buying a cheap taiwani HVLP spray gun for around $100 that will do a much better job with urethane topcoat paints than the venerable Binks Model 7 or the Mach I 2001.
05-27-2006, 09:34 AM
In my previous post I mentioned " Using todays current paint materials the old Model 7's make excellent primer guns with just about any combination of tips, needles and air caps."
I realized after I posted the information that there are variations of fluid tips, needles and air caps that do have to be matched. What stands out most prominantly is the Model 7 worked well as a pressure feed gun as well as a cup type suction feed gun. What I'm getting at is the gun won't work right if you use a fluid tip and air cap designed to be used in a pressure feed setup and you hook up a suction feed cup to it. Point being you will need to research the part numbers of the separate fluid tips, needles and air caps to find out what situation they were designed to work with ( pressure or suction feed).
05-27-2006, 10:36 AM
so with the right setup it may work with the new pants . they do have lots of setups in nettles and caps for thin to thick pants.the pant i was going to spray is.for the silver chromabase bc. the clear for prates isnason 497 00 selectclear 497-00 they had better but for prates they Thoth it wood be OK ii am using a hood for prates to see if i want to tackle it .is this pant reel thick or is the problem with the mixing.if the Bink's gun is not to do. i would like to stay under 150 or maybe go a little more .what is the best chose for a all around and clear cote gun that wood work with todays pants
05-27-2006, 06:02 PM
Pat, I am curious why in your first post your spelling and sentence structure was good and understandable. Your second and last post has every other word mis-spelled to the point where its incomprehensible. What gives ?
05-27-2006, 06:41 PM
ii have deselixea .i used word to corect and my girl frend went over it after i did i spell fenackely wen i was in school they dident know how to fix it i hav bin a auto teck doing drivebility for 20 years this is my pashin sory nex time ill hav her go over it she isent her now sory. wat was the model of that gun you sed i may be abel to spend 200 to 250
06-01-2006, 08:03 PM
ok. a update i just bought a sata jet hvlp nr2000 from the panter at the shop near my work.it looks brand new.it was used very little. i stole it for 180 it has a 1.3 tip. it was one of his backups.can any one help on any set ups for cromobase and clear.and any thing i should check to make sure it is working right
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