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TOMB
05-27-2009, 11:21 PM
Thinking about buying some from Eastwood, I like the colors.
Can someone explain to me what is a single stage urethane.
Is it good, bad, can it be buffed to a shine, its for my corvette.
Also I sprayed on some slick sand, I have to sand to get smooth but how smooth must it be to apply paint over it.

200horse
05-27-2009, 11:46 PM
dont waste your time if you are wanting single stage get kirker same thing. But I am not 100% I would use it. I would reaserch it better !!

Single stage is great for colors without metallics or pearls

Anything you can see or feel will show up in the paint

JCCLARK
05-28-2009, 12:51 PM
SS urethane is basically the same thing as urethane clear coat
with color added.
It is good, very good and durable.
Yes you can buff it.
If it's a metallic, you don't want to sand into the metallic before buffing.
you CAN clearcoat it with regular clearcoat and buff as usual.
A lot of painters swear that urethane has better color and depth than
basecoat. I believe that.
Urethane is a litle harder to work with but it's a very durable paint.
I did my own car with the Kirker urethane and it's tougher than
anything I've tried. I really like it.:cool:

CoolasIce
05-28-2009, 05:01 PM
JC, just curious. I know you've sprayed the Kirker orange and white. What other colors have you tried, if any?

http://www.smartshoppersinc.com/colorchart.html

200horse
05-28-2009, 05:13 PM
JC, just curious. I know you've sprayed the Kirker orange and white. What other colors have you tried, if any?

http://www.smartshoppersinc.com/colorchart.html

Since we are on the subject how does there base clear work if you sprayed it?

CoolasIce
05-28-2009, 05:20 PM
They don't have a base/clear system. Just spray on the SS color, and then spray on the clear.

200horse
05-28-2009, 06:37 PM
They don't have a base/clear system. Just spray on the SS color, and then spray on the clear.

Well I could swore they had a additive or something to convert it to a base clear. Or to make the single stage dry faster so clear could be applied. I know it not actually a true base/clear.

I should been more clear when asking my question

CoolasIce
05-28-2009, 06:48 PM
Yes. They have the Lazer Dry system. JC himself had a problem with it, so I'd stay away from it.

Spanky
05-28-2009, 07:01 PM
In 3 weeks I should be spraying red SS urethane on my C4. Will likely clear coat it if all goes well. First time with this process so the "goes well" part is iffy.:D I saw another done this way and it looked great.

Harry Phinney
05-28-2009, 11:03 PM
Yes. They have the Lazer Dry system. JC himself had a problem with it, so I'd stay away from it.
I've used Kirker's SS urethane and their Lazer Dry "basecoat" system. The SS urethane worked quite well, but it was just to repaint my flammable storage cabinet. It's held up well in use on the cabinet, but it doesn't get any significant UV exposure. The Lazer Dry worked OK, although the resulting basecoat had quite poor coverage. It took a minimum of 4 good coats for a dark metallic green to cover their grey epoxy primer. I used that paint on an exterior south-facing metal door and it's held up well over the last 5 years or so.

Harry Phinney

JCCLARK
05-29-2009, 06:57 AM
JC, just curious. I know you've sprayed the Kirker orange and white. What other colors have you tried, if any?


I did my boat with their silver, the one recommended for under their candy's.
It's a bigger metallic than normal, worked really good.

JCCLARK
05-29-2009, 07:02 AM
I will never use the Lazer dry again, I painted a car with it and it
failed after 3 yrs, the paint darkened and the clear lifted.
I repainted all the bad areas paying close attention to the process
and two yrs later it did the same thing.
The Lazer dry is suppose to make acrylic enamel work like
a base coat, but it's still nothing more than acrylic enamel.
Worst paint I ever used. And the only failure I ever had.
Never again, the urethane is the way to go.
It's the only paint that ever held up on my 48 yr old fishing boat!:cool:

200horse
05-29-2009, 10:10 AM
I will never use the Lazer dry again, I painted a car with it and it
failed after 3 yrs, the paint darkened and the clear lifted.
I repainted all the bad areas paying close attention to the process
and two yrs later it did the same thing.
The Lazer dry is suppose to make acrylic enamel work like
a base coat, but it's still nothing more than acrylic enamel.
Worst paint I ever used. And the only failure I ever had.
Never again, the urethane is the way to go.
It's the only paint that ever held up on my 48 yr old fishing boat!:cool:


Thanks sounds like there enamel is junk then.

On the single stage urethane did you use a clear over it or not? did you try there pearls and candy single stage

thanks

JCCLARK
05-29-2009, 01:11 PM
Thanks sounds like there enamel is junk then.


That's my opinion.

I've used the urethane both ways, with and without clear.
I'll use it with clear if I'm going to sand and buff.
I haven't tried any of the candy's yet.
I'm going to paint the top half of my boat white like it was before.
White without any clear, only because I'm constantly scuffing the sides
against trees in the water where I fish.
they leave a scuff mark on the clear that easily buffs out but the white
with no clear seems to hide them better.
It's a fishing boat, I don't want to buff on it.
I'm impressed it's only scuffing instead of scratching like it did before
the urethane was on it.
I had acrylic enamel on it at one time.
the urethane sure is many times better:cool: